Protests on college campuses

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately the accusations of antisemitism have been hurled around so excessively that the words have lost significance which is quite unfortunate.

No, you just operate in bad faith or lack the understanding to see what you are saying.

Page 1 of the handbook: I’ll tell you what you really mean!

Boring. Overused. Get creative with your propaganda tools, please.

Oh you mean the Jewish Handbook? Riiiiight. Yes, the word definitely applies to you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So, this is a question for all pro Israeli posters. In the latest negotiations in Cairo, Hamas agreed to release all the hostages in exchange for an end to the war. However, Netanyahu refused this deal ( per Reuters, I haven’t seen this reported in U.S media).

I have seen hundreds of responses here saying that Hamas can end the killing of their people in one minute if they agree to release the hostages. But now we are finding out that it was never about the hostages, this is about Likud’s intentions for explanding Israel’s foot print and Netanyahu’s struggle to remain in power.

At this point if they don’t invade Rafah, Netanyahu is toast so here we are.

Please cite where Hamas agreed to release all the hostages.

They did not. They will not even disclose how many are still alive.

And of course, Hamas has now attacked a crossing point into Israel, killing Israeli soldiers and ending any hope for aid that was supposed to come in. They really, really care about the Palestinian people. /s

Israel closed its main crossing point for delivering badly needed humanitarian aid for Gaza after Hamas attacked it. Defense Minister Yoav Gallant claimed Hamas wasn’t serious about a deal and warned of “a powerful operation in the very near future in Rafah and other places across all of Gaza.”

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hamas-attacks-israel-gaza-border-crossing-cease-fire-talks-continue/

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So, this is a question for all pro Israeli posters. In the latest negotiations in Cairo, Hamas agreed to release all the hostages in exchange for an end to the war. However, Netanyahu refused this deal ( per Reuters, I haven’t seen this reported in U.S media).

I have seen hundreds of responses here saying that Hamas can end the killing of their people in one minute if they agree to release the hostages. But now we are finding out that it was never about the hostages, this is about Likud’s intentions for explanding Israel’s foot print and Netanyahu’s struggle to remain in power.

At this point if they don’t invade Rafah, Netanyahu is toast so here we are.

Please cite where Hamas agreed to release all the hostages.

For effs sake, don’t you read The Times of Israel?

“Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu doubled down on his rejection of Hamas’s demand for an end to Israel’s war against it in exchange for freeing the hostages it holds, saying Sunday that such a move would keep the Palestinian terror organization in power in Gaza and pose a threat to Israel.”

https://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-ending-war-as-part-of-hostage-deal-would-keep-hamas-as-threat-to-israel/amp/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"> https://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-ending-war-as-part-of-hostage-deal-would-keep-hamas-as-threat-to-israel/amp/

So, Netanyahu doesn’t want the rest of the hostages.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately the accusations of antisemitism have been hurled around so excessively that the words have lost significance which is quite unfortunate.

No, you just operate in bad faith or lack the understanding to see what you are saying.

Page 1 of the handbook: I’ll tell you what you really mean!

Boring. Overused. Get creative with your propaganda tools, please.

Oh you mean the Jewish Handbook? Riiiiight. Yes, the word definitely applies to you.

You’re a dishonest party to this conversation, not wasting my time further with you. Cheers!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, this is a question for all pro Israeli posters. In the latest negotiations in Cairo, Hamas agreed to release all the hostages in exchange for an end to the war. However, Netanyahu refused this deal ( per Reuters, I haven’t seen this reported in U.S media).

I have seen hundreds of responses here saying that Hamas can end the killing of their people in one minute if they agree to release the hostages. But now we are finding out that it was never about the hostages, this is about Likud’s intentions for explanding Israel’s foot print and Netanyahu’s struggle to remain in power.

At this point if they don’t invade Rafah, Netanyahu is toast so here we are.

Please cite where Hamas agreed to release all the hostages.

For effs sake, don’t you read The Times of Israel?

“Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu doubled down on his rejection of Hamas’s demand for an end to Israel’s war against it in exchange for freeing the hostages it holds, saying Sunday that such a move would keep the Palestinian terror organization in power in Gaza and pose a threat to Israel.”

https://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-ending-war-as-part-of-hostage-deal-would-keep-hamas-as-threat-to-israel/amp/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"> https://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-ending-war-as-part-of-hostage-deal-would-keep-hamas-as-threat-to-israel/amp/

So, Netanyahu doesn’t want the rest of the hostages.

It's standard practice to *include a link* when making a claim - are you new here? And from your own link, there is also this:

Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh blamed Netanyahu for “sabotaging” the ongoing talks, but Defense Minister Yoav Gallant said it was becoming clear that the terror group had no intention of agreeing to a deal anytime soon.

[Anonymous]

Anti-Israel protesters on college campuses are reportedly getting funding from several big-name Democrat donors that have backed President Biden's re-election efforts, according to a report.

Democrat donors such as George Soros, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, David Rockefeller Jr., who sits on the board of the Rockefeller Brothers Fund, and Susan and Nick Pritzker, who own the Hyatt Hotel corporation, have funded pro-Palestinian efforts to protest the Israel-Hamas war, Politico reported.

Jewish Voice for Peace and IfNotNow are the main organizations behind the anti-Israel protests at Columbia University as well as other campuses, according to the outlet. They are backed by the Tides Foundation, which receives a substantial amount of funding from Soros as well as the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, and distributes money to left-wing causes.

The Rockefeller Fund donated $300,000 to the Tides Foundation in 2022, according to Politico. The Tides Foundation has given $500,000 to Jewish Voice for Peace, a far-left, anti-Zionist organization that blamed the Oct. 7 attacks on Israel and the U.S. rather than Hamas.
The Politico report, headlined "Pro-Palestinian protesters are backed by a surprising source: Biden's biggest donors," was panned online Sunday for finally acknowledging what others had reported months ago.

How it this a surprise? Everybody understood from the beginning that democrats are funding this disaster, same as with BLM movement. Why people are acting now as they are surprised?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Anti-Israel protesters on college campuses are reportedly getting funding from several big-name Democrat donors that have backed President Biden's re-election efforts, according to a report.

Democrat donors such as George Soros, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, David Rockefeller Jr., who sits on the board of the Rockefeller Brothers Fund, and Susan and Nick Pritzker, who own the Hyatt Hotel corporation, have funded pro-Palestinian efforts to protest the Israel-Hamas war, Politico reported.

Jewish Voice for Peace and IfNotNow are the main organizations behind the anti-Israel protests at Columbia University as well as other campuses, according to the outlet. They are backed by the Tides Foundation, which receives a substantial amount of funding from Soros as well as the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, and distributes money to left-wing causes.

The Rockefeller Fund donated $300,000 to the Tides Foundation in 2022, according to Politico. The Tides Foundation has given $500,000 to Jewish Voice for Peace, a far-left, anti-Zionist organization that blamed the Oct. 7 attacks on Israel and the U.S. rather than Hamas.
The Politico report, headlined "Pro-Palestinian protesters are backed by a surprising source: Biden's biggest donors," was panned online Sunday for finally acknowledging what others had reported months ago.

How it this a surprise? Everybody understood from the beginning that democrats are funding this disaster, same as with BLM movement. Why people are acting now as they are surprised?

Now do AIPAC, Bill Ackman, Jessica Seinfeld, et al.!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, this is a question for all pro Israeli posters. In the latest negotiations in Cairo, Hamas agreed to release all the hostages in exchange for an end to the war. However, Netanyahu refused this deal ( per Reuters, I haven’t seen this reported in U.S media).

I have seen hundreds of responses here saying that Hamas can end the killing of their people in one minute if they agree to release the hostages. But now we are finding out that it was never about the hostages, this is about Likud’s intentions for explanding Israel’s foot print and Netanyahu’s struggle to remain in power.

At this point if they don’t invade Rafah, Netanyahu is toast so here we are.

Please cite where Hamas agreed to release all the hostages.

They did not. They will not even disclose how many are still alive.

In fairness, neither side is negotiating in good faith. The ultra right wingers Smotrich and Ben-Gvir have said they'd leave the government with any kind of deal - thus necessitating elections. Netanyahu will, of course, overwhelmingly lose the next election in Israel. Meanwhile, Hamas bombed the crossing at Kerem Shalom today, which Israel had opened for humanitarian aid. Three Israeli soldiers were killed and several others injured. That humanitarian crossing is now closed.

The Israeli government is trapped by the right wing zealots. And Hamas will always be Hamas - murderous sociopaths that seek only to kill and destroy, including Palestinian civilians. It's a problem.

[Anonymous]

Thousands of Israelis take to streets of Tel Aviv to demand cease-fire and Netanyahu’s resignation
Protesters are demanding the government reach a deal to bring the hostages back from Gaza, for new elections and the resignation of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. The demonstration took place as a delegation of the Palestinian militant group Hamas was in Cairo for cease-fire talks with Israel.

https://apnews.com/video/israel-government-israel-hamas-war-israel-protests-and-demonstrations-benjamin-netanyahu-80fa94064ad4429ebb52531ad3ca12dc

It spread to Israel! These protesters…right! They are just stupid, do not understand the history the conflict, children being radicalized, leftists, etc. They should all be punished. Why have they not been arrested like the protesters here?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, this is a question for all pro Israeli posters. In the latest negotiations in Cairo, Hamas agreed to release all the hostages in exchange for an end to the war. However, Netanyahu refused this deal ( per Reuters, I haven’t seen this reported in U.S media).

I have seen hundreds of responses here saying that Hamas can end the killing of their people in one minute if they agree to release the hostages. But now we are finding out that it was never about the hostages, this is about Likud’s intentions for explanding Israel’s foot print and Netanyahu’s struggle to remain in power.

At this point if they don’t invade Rafah, Netanyahu is toast so here we are.

Please cite where Hamas agreed to release all the hostages.

For effs sake, don’t you read The Times of Israel?

“Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu doubled down on his rejection of Hamas’s demand for an end to Israel’s war against it in exchange for freeing the hostages it holds, saying Sunday that such a move would keep the Palestinian terror organization in power in Gaza and pose a threat to Israel.”

https://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-ending-war-as-part-of-hostage-deal-would-keep-hamas-as-threat-to-israel/amp/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"> https://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-ending-war-as-part-of-hostage-deal-would-keep-hamas-as-threat-to-israel/amp/

So, Netanyahu doesn’t want the rest of the hostages.

It's standard practice to *include a link* when making a claim - are you new here? And from your own link, there is also this:

Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh blamed Netanyahu for “sabotaging” the ongoing talks, but Defense Minister Yoav Gallant said it was becoming clear that the terror group had no intention of agreeing to a deal anytime soon.

LOL, of course he’s going to blame it on Hamas only. He wants to bomb Rafah. Also, the disbelievers said that Hamas didn’t offer to release all the hostages. They did. Unless you believe the Times of Israel is propoganda. Hamas rejected Israel’s counter offer, which involves…bombing Rafah.

They all sound insufferable and power hungry, frankly. But, the bar is ever moving in these discussions.

If only women ran the Middle East. Actually, a peace activist group between Israeli Jews and Palestinians said there should be women at the negotiating table in November. Guess nobody listens to a bunch of peacenik women.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:The fact that Jews are not listened to when they identify antisemitism is evidence 101 of antisemitism. We are being 'mansplained' about what is or is not anti semistism.

And the vast majority of Jews are very clear that antisemitism is very very very visible right now. Yes there are outliers, but as the cnn speaker inartfully articulated most of those are people that have limited connection to their faith and certainly are not the jews most likely to be the target of antisemitic comments because they do not wear kippah or other outward signs of jewishnesd.

The idea of leaving it to Jews to decide what constitutes anti-semitism is, frankly, ludicrous.

There’s ample evidence that claims of anti-semitism are used to silence others. The label has been weaponized for political gain to the point where it’s basically unrecognizable.

Allowing the group that stands to benefit from using the label to decide what, where and when to use it makes as much sense as allowing someone to walk into their bank and insist that they get to tell the teller how much is in their account.

Is it ludicrous to believe women who say they’ve been sexually assaulted?

Is it ludicrous to listen to black people when they say that something is a micro aggression?

Do Palestinians get to decide if they are the victims of a genocide? Why not?

Yeah, it’s like that. You want the freedom to dictate what constitutes anti-semitism because you misuse it intentionally. But I’m betting you are NOT supportive of allowing Palestinians to determine whether they are the victims of a genocide. How can we reconcile these inconsistent views of yours?

Why are you assuming my views? I asked simply why every other oppressed group is allowed to tell us when they feel oppressed and we have to believe them, but the same does not apply to Jews.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Anti-Israel protesters on college campuses are reportedly getting funding from several big-name Democrat donors that have backed President Biden's re-election efforts, according to a report.

Democrat donors such as George Soros, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, David Rockefeller Jr., who sits on the board of the Rockefeller Brothers Fund, and Susan and Nick Pritzker, who own the Hyatt Hotel corporation, have funded pro-Palestinian efforts to protest the Israel-Hamas war, Politico reported.

Jewish Voice for Peace and IfNotNow are the main organizations behind the anti-Israel protests at Columbia University as well as other campuses, according to the outlet. They are backed by the Tides Foundation, which receives a substantial amount of funding from Soros as well as the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, and distributes money to left-wing causes.

The Rockefeller Fund donated $300,000 to the Tides Foundation in 2022, according to Politico. The Tides Foundation has given $500,000 to Jewish Voice for Peace, a far-left, anti-Zionist organization that blamed the Oct. 7 attacks on Israel and the U.S. rather than Hamas.
The Politico report, headlined "Pro-Palestinian protesters are backed by a surprising source: Biden's biggest donors," was panned online Sunday for finally acknowledging what others had reported months ago.

How it this a surprise? Everybody understood from the beginning that democrats are funding this disaster, same as with BLM movement. Why people are acting now as they are surprised?

Yep.

President Joe Biden has been dogged for months by pro-Palestinian protesters calling him “Genocide Joe” — but some of the groups behind the demonstrations receive financial backing from philanthropists pushing hard for his reelection.

The donors include some of the biggest names in Democratic circles: Soros, Rockefeller and Pritzker, according to a POLITICO analysis.

Two of the organizers supporting the protests at Columbia University and on other campuses are Jewish Voice for Peace and IfNotNow. Both are supported by the Tides Foundation, which is seeded by Democratic megadonor George Soros and was previously supported by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. It in turn supports numerous small nonprofits that work for social change.

Soros declined to comment. The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, which has previously funded the Tides Foundation and other groups, said it no longer has active grants to Tides. It also does not support Jewish Voice for Peace or IfNotNow.

Another notable Democratic donor whose philanthropy has helped fund the protest movement is David Rockefeller Jr., who sits on the board of the Rockefeller Brothers Fund. In 2022, the fund gave $300,000 to the Tides Foundation; according to nonprofit tax forms, Tides has given nearly $500,000 over the past five years to Jewish Voice for Peace, which explicitly describes itself as anti-Zionist.

Several other groups involved in pro-Palestinian protests are backed by a foundation funded by Susan and Nick Pritzker, heir to the Hyatt Hotel empire — and supporters of Biden and numerous Democratic campaigns, including $6,600 to the Biden Victory Fund a few months ago and more than $300,000 during the 2020 campaign.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The fact that Jews are not listened to when they identify antisemitism is evidence 101 of antisemitism. We are being 'mansplained' about what is or is not anti semistism.

And the vast majority of Jews are very clear that antisemitism is very very very visible right now. Yes there are outliers, but as the cnn speaker inartfully articulated most of those are people that have limited connection to their faith and certainly are not the jews most likely to be the target of antisemitic comments because they do not wear kippah or other outward signs of jewishnesd.

The idea of leaving it to Jews to decide what constitutes anti-semitism is, frankly, ludicrous.

There’s ample evidence that claims of anti-semitism are used to silence others. The label has been weaponized for political gain to the point where it’s basically unrecognizable.

Allowing the group that stands to benefit from using the label to decide what, where and when to use it makes as much sense as allowing someone to walk into their bank and insist that they get to tell the teller how much is in their account.

Is it ludicrous to believe women who say they’ve been sexually assaulted?

Is it ludicrous to listen to black people when they say that something is a micro aggression?

Do Palestinians get to decide if they are the victims of a genocide? Why not?

Yeah, it’s like that. You want the freedom to dictate what constitutes anti-semitism because you misuse it intentionally. But I’m betting you are NOT supportive of allowing Palestinians to determine whether they are the victims of a genocide. How can we reconcile these inconsistent views of yours?

Why are you assuming my views? I asked simply why every other oppressed group is allowed to tell us when they feel oppressed and we have to believe them, but the same does not apply to Jews.

DP. This conflict is because two sides feel oppressed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, this is a question for all pro Israeli posters. In the latest negotiations in Cairo, Hamas agreed to release all the hostages in exchange for an end to the war. However, Netanyahu refused this deal ( per Reuters, I haven’t seen this reported in U.S media).

I have seen hundreds of responses here saying that Hamas can end the killing of their people in one minute if they agree to release the hostages. But now we are finding out that it was never about the hostages, this is about Likud’s intentions for explanding Israel’s foot print and Netanyahu’s struggle to remain in power.

At this point if they don’t invade Rafah, Netanyahu is toast so here we are.

Please cite where Hamas agreed to release all the hostages.

They did not. They will not even disclose how many are still alive.

Here you go: https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/gaza-ceasefire-talks-continue-cairo-israel-pounds-palestinian-enclave-2024-05-05/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Thousands of Israelis take to streets of Tel Aviv to demand cease-fire and Netanyahu’s resignation
Protesters are demanding the government reach a deal to bring the hostages back from Gaza, for new elections and the resignation of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. The demonstration took place as a delegation of the Palestinian militant group Hamas was in Cairo for cease-fire talks with Israel.

https://apnews.com/video/israel-government-israel-hamas-war-israel-protests-and-demonstrations-benjamin-netanyahu-80fa94064ad4429ebb52531ad3ca12dc

It spread to Israel! These protesters…right! They are just stupid, do not understand the history the conflict, children being radicalized, leftists, etc. They should all be punished. Why have they not been arrested like the protesters here?

They are “Token Jews” apparently.