Harvard of South - Emory, Duke, Rice or Vanderbilt?

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Anonymous wrote:I have encountered many people claiming that Emory, Duke, Vanderbilt or Rice owns the title of Harvard of South in different occasions. In your opinion, especially for those from the South, which school is HOS?

There is no such thing as Harvard of south or Stanford of East. All of these school are superb and doesn't need to mimic anyone. Harvard is Harvard because of its endowment, alumni and marketing, move them to south, lower their endowment $ and enrollment numbers and stop marketing then we'll see how they stack against Vanderbilt or Rice.

If you moved them to the South, say Alabama or Mississippi, they would lose their best professors, they wouldn’t get prestigious visiting professors. They wouldn’t get the top students. It’s not possible. It is a world class university.

Think about the Florida public universities and their football obsessed student body. Move them to Vermont and applications would be down 90%. Because they are who they are right where they are.

Eh. Duke is in a redneck state. So is Rice. And you really can't get any more redneck than Tennessee, home of Vanderbilt. They all seem to be doing just fine attracting top professors and students. Part of their appeal is, in fact, that they are not located in gloomy, dour New England. Many find a blue city in the red South much more appealing than Providence, New Haven, Ithaca, or Hanover.

I'm also pretty confident that the University of Florida, UNC Chapel Hill, and UVA are more desirable destinations for faculty and gifted students than UMass, UConn, UNH, URI, and Vermont. Regional biases seem very antiquated these days.

Regional biases are still a thing even if it’s just because students don’t want to travel for a whole day to go home or back to school.

I’m not sure why gifted students would be looking at state schools since are in the top 2% of all students but the Northeast is not known for their public schools unfortunately. And again with the weather! I hope that is not someone’s number one priority.

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Rice or Wake Forest.

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Anonymous wrote:Vandy and Duke outcomes easily in their own class down south, and comparable outcomes to all except HYPSM - and best of all, refreshingly balanced political culture at both V and D

What outcomes out of Vandy are better than Emory and Rice? Rice has tech placement and Emory has finance placement so what does Vandy have?

agree Rice equals Vandy, but both of them are a tier or two above Emory, which is more in the Lehigh / Rochester / Wake tier. All great schools, in second 20 tier

You're delusional and your DC probably went to Wake or something.

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Lehigh- 47 domestically, 917 globally
Wake - 47 domestically, 473 globally
Rochester- 47 domestically, 170 globally

Emory- 24 domestically, 72 globally
Vandy-18 domestically, 78 globally
Rice-17 domestically, 180 globally

I don't know what some you you alls problem is woth Emory but normal well adjusted people know this school is elite and peers with other elite schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Vandy and Duke outcomes easily in their own class down south, and comparable outcomes to all except HYPSM - and best of all, refreshingly balanced political culture at both V and D

What outcomes out of Vandy are better than Emory and Rice? Rice has tech placement and Emory has finance placement so what does Vandy have?

agree Rice equals Vandy, but both of them are a tier or two above Emory, which is more in the Lehigh / Rochester / Wake tier. All great schools, in second 20 tier

Emory is second to Duke for anything business or medicine, and better honestly better overall than Rice and Vandy. But I hope your DC does well at Lehigh.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Duke = Vandy > Rice > Emory

Duke is still more prestigious than Vandy. Duke does everything well while the other 3 do some aspects/majors as well as Duke but not everything. Realistically Duke is Columbia or Upenn level and Vandy, Rice, Emory are Cornell/Dartmouth level.

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Duke is its own class.

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Anonymous wrote:Lehigh- 47 domestically, 917 globally
Wake - 47 domestically, 473 globally
Rochester- 47 domestically, 170 globally

Emory- 24 domestically, 72 globally
Vandy-18 domestically, 78 globally
Rice-17 domestically, 180 globally

I don't know what some you you alls problem is woth Emory but normal well adjusted people know this school is elite and peers with other elite schools.

+1 pp
Duke>> Emory=Vandy=Rice>>>>>>>>>>>>>URochester>Wake>>Lehigh

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Anonymous wrote:Lehigh- 47 domestically, 917 globally
Wake - 47 domestically, 473 globally
Rochester- 47 domestically, 170 globally

Emory- 24 domestically, 72 globally
Vandy-18 domestically, 78 globally
Rice-17 domestically, 180 globally

I don't know what some you you alls problem is woth Emory but normal well adjusted people know this school is elite and peers with other elite schools.

Going by this it seems like it seems like it's
Duke>Vandy> Emory>Rice
Don't know how those other 3 got into the conversation.

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Anonymous wrote:Vandy and Duke outcomes easily in their own class down south, and comparable outcomes to all except HYPSM - and best of all, refreshingly balanced political culture at both V and D

What outcomes out of Vandy are better than Emory and Rice? Rice has tech placement and Emory has finance placement so what does Vandy have?

agree Rice equals Vandy, but both of them are a tier or two above Emory, which is more in the Lehigh / Rochester / Wake tier. All great schools, in second 20 tier

This is way off. Emory is ranked #24 and Vanderbilt #18 and Rice #17. They are all very closely ranked/same level/tier. Meanwhile Lehigh, Rochester, and Wake are all ranked #47. No, rankings aren’t everything but if you look at other numbers like stats for incoming students and outcomes for grads, Emory is a peer w Rice and Vanderbilt, and Lehigh, Rochester, and Wake are several levels/tiers below them.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think any of those schools really want or care about being Harvard of the South, they’re all well respected in their own ways. But if we’re talking about the best school in the South, it’s Duke full-stop. Not particularly close.

This.

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Anonymous wrote:Vandy and Duke outcomes easily in their own class down south, and comparable outcomes to all except HYPSM - and best of all, refreshingly balanced political culture at both V and D

What outcomes out of Vandy are better than Emory and Rice? Rice has tech placement and Emory has finance placement so what does Vandy have?

agree Rice equals Vandy, but both of them are a tier or two above Emory, which is more in the Lehigh / Rochester / Wake tier. All great schools, in second 20 tier

This is way off. Emory is ranked #24 and Vanderbilt #18 and Rice #17. They are all very closely ranked/same level/tier. Meanwhile Lehigh, Rochester, and Wake are all ranked #47. No, rankings aren’t everything but if you look at other numbers like stats for incoming students and outcomes for grads, Emory is a peer w Rice and Vanderbilt, and Lehigh, Rochester, and Wake are several levels/tiers below them.

There's been a concerted effort on dcum to make Wake and Tufts Emorys peers, and when you bring ypnrankings they get upset.

[Anonymous]

Which aspects of Harvard are you focusing on to make this comparison?

stuffiest?
wealth of traditional student body?
depth of elitist legacies?
High school SATs?
Endowment?

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Anonymous wrote:Vandy and Duke outcomes easily in their own class down south, and comparable outcomes to all except HYPSM - and best of all, refreshingly balanced political culture at both V and D

What outcomes out of Vandy are better than Emory and Rice? Rice has tech placement and Emory has finance placement so what does Vandy have?

agree Rice equals Vandy, but both of them are a tier or two above Emory, which is more in the Lehigh / Rochester / Wake tier. All great schools, in second 20 tier

This is way off. Emory is ranked #24 and Vanderbilt #18 and Rice #17. They are all very closely ranked/same level/tier. Meanwhile Lehigh, Rochester, and Wake are all ranked #47. No, rankings aren’t everything but if you look at other numbers like stats for incoming students and outcomes for grads, Emory is a peer w Rice and Vanderbilt, and Lehigh, Rochester, and Wake are several levels/tiers below them.

It is pointless to try to rank US colleges. The sooner people realize this the happier and better adjusted our children will be.

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Anonymous wrote:Vandy and Duke outcomes easily in their own class down south, and comparable outcomes to all except HYPSM - and best of all, refreshingly balanced political culture at both V and D

What outcomes out of Vandy are better than Emory and Rice? Rice has tech placement and Emory has finance placement so what does Vandy have?

agree Rice equals Vandy, but both of them are a tier or two above Emory, which is more in the Lehigh / Rochester / Wake tier. All great schools, in second 20 tier

This is way off. Emory is ranked #24 and Vanderbilt #18 and Rice #17. They are all very closely ranked/same level/tier. Meanwhile Lehigh, Rochester, and Wake are all ranked #47. No, rankings aren’t everything but if you look at other numbers like stats for incoming students and outcomes for grads, Emory is a peer w Rice and Vanderbilt, and Lehigh, Rochester, and Wake are several levels/tiers below them.

It is pointless to try to rank US colleges. The sooner people realize this the happier and better adjusted our children will be.

I think these are all good schools so rankings don’t matter that much. You can get a great education and have good post grad options at any of these places. However, it’s also stupid to claim that they’re all the same in terms of numbers, which is what rankings are based on.