Who knew that Mary Lou Retton became a right wing nut job?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Getting sick and hospitalized is terrible. I don’t know who hurt all the people posting in this thread, but it’s a great example of why society is so dysfunctional now.

I don’t have any interest in Mary Lou Retton and didn’t watch her performance at the Olympics.

I know that there is no going back when a woman is hospitalized and fighting for her life, and other people think it’s entertaining to talk about her this way. People feel entitled to talk this way, so smugly.

Our schools are full of children who act like this. No compassion, empathy, or manners. It’s very rare to see an openly compassionate and/or emotionally intelligent child these days, despite parents thinking their child fits that description. Bullies are good at manipulating those around them. Mean girls are more of a problem than boy bullies, because the mean girls group together, manipulate teachers and parents into believing they are “good,” and then spend their days bullying other girls. They make life miserable for any girl who they think they can do this to, and rationalize it in their minds as ok because of whatever reason they can grasp onto.

It’s a bad, downward trend, and I just realized while reading this thread, why so many girls are like this. It’s their mothers. They learn from mom.

In this case it is more about karma. The entire right wing of the country has a political agenda based on grivenences. How dare women want to control their bodies, how dare we have a social safety net for the disadvantaged, how dare we have a functioning public education system? How dare gay people, trans people and people of color have the same freedoms and rights as everyone else? Yet these are all things the right opposes, and to top it off, it is mostly straight white, rich males, many of whom were born "with a silver spoon in their mouths" or "on third base" telling the rest of us to pull ourselves up by our bootstraps to be as successful as they are.

So when we see someone like Ms Retton, whose family had the resources to invest in her athletic career, spew right wing garbage about everyone else, and then resort to the public grifting, rather than having taken responsbility and simply gotten health insurance, it is karma. Sure, we can feel bad for her, but it isn't like she felt bad for people who were subjected to the oppression hoisted by the right, and where COVID is concerned, there were millions who suffered needlessly because people like her refused to believe science and simply get a shot to help protect others in our society. That isn't very Christian, now is it?

[Anonymous]

This exactly!

It is not about "mean girls."

But her family wants a different set of rules for themselves than they want imposed on the rest of us.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’ll admit, I don’t admire people who had the means to complete high school, and didn’t. I’m fine with people from WV btw. ~ NP

Do you not think that her not completing HS had something to do with her gymnastics career?
Might she have gotten her GED?
Why, yes, she did.
And, I'll say it again and again. Attending college does not magically grant someone "intelligence." Some of the smartest, most knowledgeable people I know didn't go to 1 year of college.

"I guess I've kept very busy," she said recently. "I can't believe it's an Olympic year again. My mother always said, 'You'll go to the Olympics, then you'll go home and finish high school at Fairmont High.' That's always what I planned to do."

But that is not quite what happened.

Retton did get her high school diploma. But she had to wedge her studies between dozens of speeches at clinics and banquets and appearances in commercials for cereal and batteries and shampoo.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/sports/1988/07/14/retton-older-wiser-but-still-on-the-run/3cb4ffb0-78aa-4b7d-a466-fedf91dcb648/

She’s clearly not all that smart if she chose to remain uninsured.

You have no idea as to why she is uninsured, of even if she is totally uninsured.

So her family’s just grifting? How typical.

Is it really “grifting” if Retton’s family is up front and honest about why they are asking for money and what they’re going to use it for? Nobody is required to give.

I will say, though, that this sets a very bad example in that non-famous people will look at all the money Retton has raised and choose not to get health insurance for themselves because they assume they will be able to easily raise hundreds of thousands of dollars when the time comes if necessary.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Getting sick and hospitalized is terrible. I don’t know who hurt all the people posting in this thread, but it’s a great example of why society is so dysfunctional now.

I don’t have any interest in Mary Lou Retton and didn’t watch her performance at the Olympics.

I know that there is no going back when a woman is hospitalized and fighting for her life, and other people think it’s entertaining to talk about her this way. People feel entitled to talk this way, so smugly.

Our schools are full of children who act like this. No compassion, empathy, or manners. It’s very rare to see an openly compassionate and/or emotionally intelligent child these days, despite parents thinking their child fits that description. Bullies are good at manipulating those around them. Mean girls are more of a problem than boy bullies, because the mean girls group together, manipulate teachers and parents into believing they are “good,” and then spend their days bullying other girls. They make life miserable for any girl who they think they can do this to, and rationalize it in their minds as ok because of whatever reason they can grasp onto.

It’s a bad, downward trend, and I just realized while reading this thread, why so many girls are like this. It’s their mothers. They learn from mom.

In this case it is more about karma. The entire right wing of the country has a political agenda based on grivenences. How dare women want to control their bodies, how dare we have a social safety net for the disadvantaged, how dare we have a functioning public education system? How dare gay people, trans people and people of color have the same freedoms and rights as everyone else? Yet these are all things the right opposes, and to top it off, it is mostly straight white, rich males, many of whom were born "with a silver spoon in their mouths" or "on third base" telling the rest of us to pull ourselves up by our bootstraps to be as successful as they are.

So when we see someone like Ms Retton, whose family had the resources to invest in her athletic career, spew right wing garbage about everyone else, and then resort to the public grifting, rather than having taken responsbility and simply gotten health insurance, it is karma. Sure, we can feel bad for her, but it isn't like she felt bad for people who were subjected to the oppression hoisted by the right, and where COVID is concerned, there were millions who suffered needlessly because people like her refused to believe science and simply get a shot to help protect others in our society. That isn't very Christian, now is it?

+1

And if her pneumonia is of the covid variety and she’s been intubated for a week, her chances of survival are about 1-5%. And then it will “not be appropriate” to discuss her politics and how her politics fit into the larger scheme of things because she’ll be dead, more or less by her own hand. Right wing politics are about selfishness and about making sure no one else gets up the ladder. Conservative thought is the lack of compassion and emotional intelligence that the nested pp decries when saying all of us are entertaining ourselves at MLR’s expense. No, we are just slotting her and her apparent politics where they belong. Choices have consequences. She’s made her choices and she is likely to die from them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’ll admit, I don’t admire people who had the means to complete high school, and didn’t. I’m fine with people from WV btw. ~ NP

Do you not think that her not completing HS had something to do with her gymnastics career?
Might she have gotten her GED?
Why, yes, she did.
And, I'll say it again and again. Attending college does not magically grant someone "intelligence." Some of the smartest, most knowledgeable people I know didn't go to 1 year of college.

"I guess I've kept very busy," she said recently. "I can't believe it's an Olympic year again. My mother always said, 'You'll go to the Olympics, then you'll go home and finish high school at Fairmont High.' That's always what I planned to do."

But that is not quite what happened.

Retton did get her high school diploma. But she had to wedge her studies between dozens of speeches at clinics and banquets and appearances in commercials for cereal and batteries and shampoo.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/sports/1988/07/14/retton-older-wiser-but-still-on-the-run/3cb4ffb0-78aa-4b7d-a466-fedf91dcb648/

She’s clearly not all that smart if she chose to remain uninsured.

You have no idea as to why she is uninsured, of even if she is totally uninsured.

So her family’s just grifting? How typical.

Is it really “grifting” if Retton’s family is up front and honest about why they are asking for money and what they’re going to use it for? Nobody is required to give.

I will say, though, that this sets a very bad example in that non-famous people will look at all the money Retton has raised and choose not to get health insurance for themselves because they assume they will be able to easily raise hundreds of thousands of dollars when the time comes if necessary.

The daughter has refused to answer why a person of Retton’s means was uninsured so they’re not exactly being forthcoming.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ll admit, I don’t admire people who had the means to complete high school, and didn’t. I’m fine with people from WV btw. ~ NP

Do you not think that her not completing HS had something to do with her gymnastics career?
Might she have gotten her GED?
Why, yes, she did.
And, I'll say it again and again. Attending college does not magically grant someone "intelligence." Some of the smartest, most knowledgeable people I know didn't go to 1 year of college.

"I guess I've kept very busy," she said recently. "I can't believe it's an Olympic year again. My mother always said, 'You'll go to the Olympics, then you'll go home and finish high school at Fairmont High.' That's always what I planned to do."

But that is not quite what happened.

Retton did get her high school diploma. But she had to wedge her studies between dozens of speeches at clinics and banquets and appearances in commercials for cereal and batteries and shampoo.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/sports/1988/07/14/retton-older-wiser-but-still-on-the-run/3cb4ffb0-78aa-4b7d-a466-fedf91dcb648/

She’s clearly not all that smart if she chose to remain uninsured.

You have no idea as to why she is uninsured, of even if she is totally uninsured.

So her family’s just grifting? How typical.

Is it really “grifting” if Retton’s family is up front and honest about why they are asking for money and what they’re going to use it for? Nobody is required to give.

I will say, though, that this sets a very bad example in that non-famous people will look at all the money Retton has raised and choose not to get health insurance for themselves because they assume they will be able to easily raise hundreds of thousands of dollars when the time comes if necessary.

They might realize though that she is benefiting from her fame. Not every person who starts a go fund me gets money. If she weren’t an Olympic medalist, I doubt she’d raise even $10,000.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Getting sick and hospitalized is terrible. I don’t know who hurt all the people posting in this thread, but it’s a great example of why society is so dysfunctional now.

I don’t have any interest in Mary Lou Retton and didn’t watch her performance at the Olympics.

I know that there is no going back when a woman is hospitalized and fighting for her life, and other people think it’s entertaining to talk about her this way. People feel entitled to talk this way, so smugly.

Our schools are full of children who act like this. No compassion, empathy, or manners. It’s very rare to see an openly compassionate and/or emotionally intelligent child these days, despite parents thinking their child fits that description. Bullies are good at manipulating those around them. Mean girls are more of a problem than boy bullies, because the mean girls group together, manipulate teachers and parents into believing they are “good,” and then spend their days bullying other girls. They make life miserable for any girl who they think they can do this to, and rationalize it in their minds as ok because of whatever reason they can grasp onto.

It’s a bad, downward trend, and I just realized while reading this thread, why so many girls are like this. It’s their mothers. They learn from mom.

In this case it is more about karma. The entire right wing of the country has a political agenda based on grivenences. How dare women want to control their bodies, how dare we have a social safety net for the disadvantaged, how dare we have a functioning public education system? How dare gay people, trans people and people of color have the same freedoms and rights as everyone else? Yet these are all things the right opposes, and to top it off, it is mostly straight white, rich males, many of whom were born "with a silver spoon in their mouths" or "on third base" telling the rest of us to pull ourselves up by our bootstraps to be as successful as they are.

So when we see someone like Ms Retton, whose family had the resources to invest in her athletic career, spew right wing garbage about everyone else, and then resort to the public grifting, rather than having taken responsbility and simply gotten health insurance, it is karma. Sure, we can feel bad for her, but it isn't like she felt bad for people who were subjected to the oppression hoisted by the right, and where COVID is concerned, there were millions who suffered needlessly because people like her refused to believe science and simply get a shot to help protect others in our society. That isn't very Christian, now is it?

Exactly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What was her reasoning for the opposition?

She is on the USAG payroll.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ffs the woman in in the ICU. Why don’t you take a jog or clean your house or something.

She voted *against* protecting young athletes from sexual abuse by coaches, etc. She is worth millions and owns a 9000 square foot mansion.

[Anonymous]

The majority of these comments are pathetic I suppose that's how you want our country though or even the world just hate hate hate hate hate as long as you can find some little reason to hate you're going to hate. The future looks very dark with people like you around.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This exactly!

It is not about "mean girls."

But her family wants a different set of rules for themselves than they want imposed on the rest of us.

Exactly. Her family is begging for money like they don't have an expensive house they could sell.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The majority of these comments are pathetic I suppose that's how you want our country though or even the world just hate hate hate hate hate as long as you can find some little reason to hate you're going to hate. The future looks very dark with people like you around.

No, what we want is Universal Healthcare, and people who support the GOP don't want anyone to have it.

I hope she fully recovers and realizes why healthcare is human right that is not just for rich people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ffs the woman in in the ICU. Why don’t you take a jog or clean your house or something.

She voted *against* protecting young athletes from sexual abuse by coaches, etc. She is worth millions and owns a 9000 square foot mansion.

She didn’t just vote against it, she lobbied in person on the Hill, visiting with sponsors of the bill, against its passage.

I don’t wish her harm, but she’s a $hit person.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The majority of these comments are pathetic I suppose that's how you want our country though or even the world just hate hate hate hate hate as long as you can find some little reason to hate you're going to hate. The future looks very dark with people like you around.

Hypocrites shouldn’t be surprised that they aren’t universally liked.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The majority of these comments are pathetic I suppose that's how you want our country though or even the world just hate hate hate hate hate as long as you can find some little reason to hate you're going to hate. The future looks very dark with people like you around.

No, what we want is Universal Healthcare, and people who support the GOP don't want anyone to have it.

I hope she fully recovers and realizes why healthcare is human right that is not just for rich people.

She’ll recover, give thanks to the Lord and go right back to her old ways.