Anonymous
Post 10/05/2018 10:41     Subject: Re:The grim reality...the decline in college acceptance rates

The answer is quite simple, as the truth is always simple.

Look at the population of the US. Look at the population growth each year.

The number of colleges have remained static. The population has grown greatly. There were 250 million Americans in 1990. There are 326 million Americans today.

This is your answer.
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2018 10:10     Subject: Re:The grim reality...the decline in college acceptance rates

If you don’t need aid, it seems nothing has changed. You will get in good school with lower stats. Paying full price means more choices and better chance at early decision. The fabulous stat kids at our public HS that were shut out got into the state schools but none of the places where they needed aid. It will be fine - UVA and W&M take care of their own. But still - you can just tell who has the unlimited funds and who does not when it comes to acceptances.
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2018 10:04     Subject: The grim reality...the decline in college acceptance rates

Anonymous wrote:Common app caused statistical change.


This is true, but:

Same number of kids + same number of seats = equally difficult admission overall regardless of individual acceptance rates.

This does not mean certain colleges, like ivies, have not gotten harder to get into; I think students work harder on academics than they did in my day, plus test prep etc which did not really exist in the stone ages... also as mentioned above common app means kids apply to more schools than they used to. And more kids want certain schools than they used to, because, well, it's really expensive so why not try.

But overall it's the same as it ever was, and in fact a bit easier as the college age population has shrunk a bit.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/us-colleges-are-facing-a-demographic-and-existential_us_59511619e4b0326c0a8d09e9

These are facts.
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2018 09:59     Subject: The grim reality...the decline in college acceptance rates

Anonymous wrote:Not sure what people are complaining about? They did take into account multiple apps as their first point. Clearly, parents today would not do well in reading comprehension sections of standardized tests.

First, there is some indication that the average applicant applies to more schools today than in the past. An article in The Atlantic relates that while a handful of school applications per student might have been the norm in the past, now 10 or 15 applications is more normal. More applications per person to the same number of slots at top schools means admissions rates go down.


And there are far more international students applying than there were 20-30 years ago too.
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2018 09:57     Subject: Re:The grim reality...the decline in college acceptance rates

Anonymous wrote:Maybe look at it a different way bright accomplished kids are spread among and thriving at a larger number of schools than ever before. Kids who do their research will find the perfect fit. Kids who rely on their parents 30 year old knowledge about schools will learn an important lesson.


That is the truth.

How nice it is that more of the capable don't sell themselves so short and actually apply to these better places.

Anonymous
Post 10/05/2018 09:41     Subject: The grim reality...the decline in college acceptance rates

Common app caused statistical change.
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2018 09:40     Subject: The grim reality...the decline in college acceptance rates

My observation is that the kids in my son's high school landed where they should.

Anonymous
Post 10/05/2018 09:39     Subject: The grim reality...the decline in college acceptance rates

Anonymous wrote:What are possible explanations for the William and Mary change?[/quote]


William & Mary is a state school. You can't compare it to the selectivity ratings of privates and SLACs. Go back to the list and see how many state schools are on that list. State schools cater primarily to their state where top students are funneled in by their public schools according to fit. Ergo the student applications are preselected by the funneling high schools.
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2018 08:53     Subject: The grim reality...the decline in college acceptance rates

What are possible explanations for the William and Mary change?
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2018 08:39     Subject: The grim reality...the decline in college acceptance rates

Not sure what people are complaining about? They did take into account multiple apps as their first point. Clearly, parents today would not do well in reading comprehension sections of standardized tests.

First, there is some indication that the average applicant applies to more schools today than in the past. An article in The Atlantic relates that while a handful of school applications per student might have been the norm in the past, now 10 or 15 applications is more normal. More applications per person to the same number of slots at top schools means admissions rates go down.
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2018 07:40     Subject: Re:The grim reality...the decline in college acceptance rates

Maybe look at it a different way bright accomplished kids are spread among and thriving at a larger number of schools than ever before. Kids who do their research will find the perfect fit. Kids who rely on their parents 30 year old knowledge about schools will learn an important lesson.
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2018 06:34     Subject: The grim reality...the decline in college acceptance rates

Crappy article.

Increased application rates, super scoring, grade inflation... all make it harder for schools to,differentiate among applicants and all result in lower acceptance rates with more seeming randomness.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2018 22:32     Subject: The grim reality...the decline in college acceptance rates

Terrible analysis. Should have taken into account multiple applications.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2018 21:41     Subject: The grim reality...the decline in college acceptance rates

The article seems to minimize the impact of the increased number of applications per student. I applied to four schools back in the day. I don't think any kid does that few anymore.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2018 21:38     Subject: The grim reality...the decline in college acceptance rates