This. Quite a few riders had no light or reflector on their bikes, very dangerous when weaving in and out of traffic in the dark. |
I guess when people don't care about their own safety they really don't care about others. |
This discussion is stupid. The vast majority of motorists will waive cyclists through the intersection - even when they get there before the cyclist - because they understand the fundamental differences between the two vehicles. Occasionally you’ll have the occasional driver - a few of whom have apparently found their way here - who were traumatized by a bicycle early in life and see fit to take out their issues on every cyclist they encounter, even when cyclists are fully compliant with the law. |
No, my response is, I already said above that I stop for stop signs when there are cars or pedestrians there. I'm not responsible for what "my buddies" do, any more than you're responsible for what other drivers do. |
If a motorist is in view of a stop sign, they believe they are "at" the intersection and that you should yield ROW, even if you are already rolling through your yield. Because, obviously, motorists take priority on the roads. /s |
My husband is a cyclist who’s in a local club. They do go to extremes. They pride themselves on beating each other’s times, and ride to the point of severe personal debilitation. My husband was told not to street ride while on blood thinners after riding himself into major calf blood clots. He does it anyway and hides it from the doctors. It’s “all about the ride” |
Your husband is a loser. |
All I'm hearing are cyclists making excuses about why they shouldn't have the follow the Idaho Stop law, even as they simultaneously complain about drivers not obeying the law. |
That's because they hitched their wagon to the "safety" train. The only justification for building bike lanes, considering the usage statistics, is safety so they need to push that angle hard. |
it's not just bicyclists. i see people on scooters and mopeds and e-bikes and motorcycles now treating stop signs and traffic lights as if they are entirely optional. this behavior is spreading. |
Motorcycles have always treated traffic laws as optional. They are the OG scofflaws. The power of a super car and the entitlement of two wheels. A dangerous combination. Also don't forget pedestrians and their jaywalking. |
This. As a driver, I will always wave a cyclist through and as a cyclist, I appreciate the same treatment and usually receive it and respond with a wave. |
As a cyclist, I appreciate the thought, but if you're at a stop sign already and you can see me coming to a stop, then it's easier for me if you just go. I usually end up stopping, starting at you for a beat, then going. |
We have a "broken windows" program with traffic laws. Bad behavior going unpunished only begets more bad behavior. |
Just to be clear, Bike Party announcement invite reads like this, every time: "Special Event Notes: Leave No Trace: Please check for trash/recyclables and dispose of them properly—thanks! We appreciate your help in making the evening go as smoothly and as joyfully as possible! Please be kind to the volunteers, other riders, other road users, and our neighbors. No outside food or alcohol is allowed at the end-point venue. FAQs: What is DC Bike Party? DC Bike Party is a celebration of the bicycle and Washington DC bicycle community, run 100% by volunteers for the last 10+ years! Do I need a helmet? That’s probably wise. Do I need lights? Yes. Do I need spandex? No. What’s the distance/time? It’s a comfortable “party pace” ride. We usually go around 8 miles in 2 hours (including a midpoint party). Where will we go? Stay behind the volunteers at the front (wearing neon yellow shirts). They know where to go. Will the ride return to the starting point? No. But our endpoints are always a short ride from a metro station. Is this a “no drop” or “supported” ride? No. You may find that there is a Good Samaritan in attendance who has the knowledge or tools on hand, but you shouldn’t rely on that possibility or that someone will have the correct size tubes or other parts that your bike needs. Before you leave the house, you should, at minimum, do an ABC check: Air; Brakes; Chain/Cables. Can I ride on the sidewalk? If you want to be a jerk. Can I ride my motorcycle? No gas-powered vehicles. If you are comfortable taking it on the highway, we are not comfortable having it with us." |