Georgetown or Northwestern

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:

Would love thoughts from people who have recent experience with either college or whose DCs also were choosing between them. I wish he could apply to both and then decide, but it seems that if he wants NU it has to be by ED so he has to decide sooner.


Apply to both and see ! Top unhooked students do get into these schools in RD. Mine did and so do many others.
Anonymous
Northwestern is the stronger school, particularly for the interests mentioned.
Anonymous
Jewish alum from Northwestern, with a Jewish kid at Northwestern right now. Northwestern is INCREDIBLY safe for Jewish students. It's not only located in a heavily Jewish area, population-wise, several of its hallmark programs and schools are named after Jewish donors, the current president is Jewish -- as were the last two presidents.

Being anti-genocide and protesting peacefully to that end is NOT antisemitic. It's really disheartening to see so many Jewish alums, both at NU and at other institutions, make these conflations.

Heck, this video was taken at Northwestern: https://twitter.com/TalbertSwan/status/1784412078704337009

But to answer your question, OP, Northwestern. Hands down.
Anonymous
Northwestern really, REALLY cares about ED. I can't speak to Georgetown, but Northwestern really prizes the ED applicant, and it's much easier to get in that way. (The "why Northwestern" essay is also crucial--they really want people who are passionate about wanting to go there.) It's my sense Northwestern also really cares about test scores, which your kid has. That's because Northwestern wants to think it's on par with the Ivies (and wants the scores to prove it), so it doesn't like to admit students, in my anecdotal experience, who will drag down its averages. And it definitely doesn't want to be the backup to some Ivy-striving kid. It wants to be a student's first choice. Another thing to consider: Northwestern is on a quarter system--which means it's also very intense, as there's no room for error with such short terms. But this does allow for more exploration in classes (as there are four sets of classes each year instead of just two under a semester system). It also means your kid starts late (mid Sept) and ends late (in mid June, as only one quarter can fit before xmas), which can preclude some summer internship options. Also the post-xmas can be a long haul: as 3 quarters in a row. But I do think it's a fun social life, etc. with big sports fandom, etc., and it has a bit of a pre-professional culture, so if kid wants business, that seems like a good fit. Certainly all the big companies recruit there. I also think it cares about legacies as, again, it's all about people lovin' Northwestern. So you are right--if he decides it's his first choice, he'd be insane not to ED. The one thing I might weigh is DC is going thru some dysfunction as a city right now. A lot of crime and city gov't that's a bit of a mess. Depending on the outcome of the election, it could also be the site of some future political unrest. Evanston is more suburban and away from the fray, but that cuts both ways: if your child wants to be IN a big city (not outside one), then Georgetown may be the better fit. Fwiw. Good luck to your child.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:If Jewish, Georgetown.


Hmm. So you prefer a sectarian school that’s NOT Jewish (and with less than half the Jewish population) to a secular one for a Jewish student? Just because NU agreed to form a toothless advisory committee in exchange for stopping the disruptive protests?

Also according to Hillel, NU has 1200 jewels undergrads (14%) while Gtown has 500 (7%).

If finding a Jewish community is important, I’d actually choose NU. Basing it only on this litmus of a particular moment in not refusing to acknowledge that the protestors MIGHT POSSIBLY have some legitimate complaints feels knee jerk and ignores too much else that’s important to being a Jewish student on campus.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Northwestern for sure. I give the president a lot of credit for reaching an agreement with the protesters. Very progressive president.


If that what you want for your child’s education go for it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Northwestern for sure. I give the president a lot of credit for reaching an agreement with the protesters. Very progressive president.


There should never have been a negotiation.

They are students who signed a code of conduct before enrolling.

Follow the rules or get suspended should have been the only discussion. They should have rec38ved the same consequences as a group of red hat wearing frat boys would have if they had said the antisemitic things that these students did.


+1,000
Anonymous

Georgetown Mcdonough
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Jewish alum from Northwestern, with a Jewish kid at Northwestern right now. Northwestern is INCREDIBLY safe for Jewish students. It's not only located in a heavily Jewish area, population-wise, several of its hallmark programs and schools are named after Jewish donors, the current president is Jewish -- as were the last two presidents.

Being anti-genocide and protesting peacefully to that end is NOT antisemitic. It's really disheartening to see so many Jewish alums, both at NU and at other institutions, make these conflations.

Heck, this video was taken at Northwestern: https://twitter.com/TalbertSwan/status/1784412078704337009

But to answer your question, OP, Northwestern. Hands down.


On Yom Hashoah of all days? You’re a shonda.

Our Jewish tour guide in March gave his honest assessment of what’s happening on campus and ive read about the movement to remove Hillel and I’ve the defacement of buildings with the names of Jewish donors. You the more you repeat this narrative about Israel and genocide the more credence you give it. The Nazis were experts at that.
Anonymous

Jewish students can feel very safe in Catholic schools in general - Georgetown & Notre Dame

Anonymous
“Being anti-genocide and protesting peacefully to that end is NOT antisemitic.”

Except that it’s not a genocide. When protests are so one sided, ignoring what caused this whole current situation, then it’s antisemitic. If protestors would also call for Hamas to surrender and let go of their captives so this bloodshed would end, then I’d be more inclined to believe your comment. But they don’t. Chanting river to the sea and intifada are not “peaceful” protests. Protestors who align with these people are complicit in calls for elimination of the only Jewish state on the planet. By the way, Evanston itself is not a heavily Jewish area and many universities throughout the country have buildings names after Jews and also have and have had Jewish presidents. That’s a non-issue in this discussion.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Jewish alum from Northwestern, with a Jewish kid at Northwestern right now. Northwestern is INCREDIBLY safe for Jewish students. It's not only located in a heavily Jewish area, population-wise, several of its hallmark programs and schools are named after Jewish donors, the current president is Jewish -- as were the last two presidents.

Being anti-genocide and protesting peacefully to that end is NOT antisemitic. It's really disheartening to see so many Jewish alums, both at NU and at other institutions, make these conflations.

Heck, this video was taken at Northwestern: https://twitter.com/TalbertSwan/status/1784412078704337009

But to answer your question, OP, Northwestern. Hands down.


On Yom Hashoah of all days? You’re a shonda.

Our Jewish tour guide in March gave his honest assessment of what’s happening on campus and ive read about the movement to remove Hillel and I’ve the defacement of buildings with the names of Jewish donors. You the more you repeat this narrative about Israel and genocide the more credence you give it. The Nazis were experts at that.


+1

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Northwestern for sure. I give the president a lot of credit for reaching an agreement with the protesters. Very progressive president.


There should never have been a negotiation.

They are students who signed a code of conduct before enrolling.

Follow the rules or get suspended should have been the only discussion. They should have rec38ved the same consequences as a group of red hat wearing frat boys would have if they had said the antisemitic things that these students did.


+1,000


Agree with you. Horrible precedent - now do they negotiate with a KKK rally? Asking for more representation of the white male perspective ostracized by academia.

But northwestern is in bed with the ME donors more than any other school. It shows up in these new promises.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Jewish students can feel very safe in Catholic schools in general - Georgetown & Notre Dame



True.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Jewish students can feel very safe in Catholic schools in general - Georgetown & Notre Dame



Agree.

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