Crimson - college ranking based on cross admit yield data

[Anonymous]

Schools would never publish cross admit data. And there is no way to verify Crimson's data so I would just take it with a grain of salt.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This tracks with our experience getting to know actual Vanderbilt students (DC is enrolled now) -- the student really, really do want to be there. They are not sad that they're not at USC, or Brown, or Chicago. Vanderbilt was their target all along ... regardless of where it falls on this year's USNWR list.

They know it ranks lower than Brown, and the current students we know don't seem to care because they're completely different products. That's why they (and so many other enrolled students) do ED, even before test optional came onto the scene.

I would guess the situation is the same at some of the other very distinctive schools, like Dartmouth and Columbia.

vs., I could personally see the same individual being agnostic between, say, Duke and Northwestern.

What does the last sentence mean ?

If I understand, then this poster doesn't have a clue.

The same applicant who has a evidence-based shot at admission to either Duke or Northwestern will feel equal attraction to both for undergrad, in many cases. Duke and Northwestern undergrad experiences are not so different from each other; neither are campus vibes.

The pre-professional applicant who is med school / law school / biz school or bust cannot credibly say that these are two very different academic experiences. Brown? Chicago? UCLA? Very different from Duke. But Northwestern is not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where does the cross admit data come from? If it's Parchment then it's unreliable data...

What do you base that on? I've heard that the cross admit data is very accurate for schools with large applicant figures, but less so for smaller schools.

Think about it. Parchment gets data from HS transcripts sent. How would it know cross-admit data? Even the colleges don't know for sure - students are under no obligation to tell (although there's a short optional survey when you decline the admit). Similarly, the HS does not know unless students divulge.

[Anonymous]

If this becomes a popular ranking system, then it is absolutely going to suck as schools become even more aggressive about yield. For pity's sake, don't encourage it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If this becomes a popular ranking system, then it is absolutely going to suck as schools become even more aggressive about yield. For pity's sake, don't encourage it.

Fortunately not much evidence that it has reliable data.

[Anonymous]

Totally unreliable.

Hard pass.

[Anonymous]

Looks pretty accurate to me. I’m sure state schools in state tuition provides a big boost

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This tracks with our experience getting to know actual Vanderbilt students (DC is enrolled now) -- the student really, really do want to be there. They are not sad that they're not at USC, or Brown, or Chicago. Vanderbilt was their target all along ... regardless of where it falls on this year's USNWR list.

They know it ranks lower than Brown, and the current students we know don't seem to care because they're completely different products. That's why they (and so many other enrolled students) do ED, even before test optional came onto the scene.

I would guess the situation is the same at some of the other very distinctive schools, like Dartmouth and Columbia.

vs., I could personally see the same individual being agnostic between, say, Duke and Northwestern.

What does the last sentence mean ?

If I understand, then this poster doesn't have a clue.

The same applicant who has a evidence-based shot at admission to either Duke or Northwestern will feel equal attraction to both for undergrad, in many cases. Duke and Northwestern undergrad experiences are not so different from each other; neither are campus vibes.

The pre-professional applicant who is med school / law school / biz school or bust cannot credibly say that these are two very different academic experiences. Brown? Chicago? UCLA? Very different from Duke. But Northwestern is not.

NW is more nerdy/grindy while Duke is more Preppy. Brown, UCLA, and Duke are in one group while Chicago and NW are in another

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This tracks with our experience getting to know actual Vanderbilt students (DC is enrolled now) -- the student really, really do want to be there. They are not sad that they're not at USC, or Brown, or Chicago. Vanderbilt was their target all along ... regardless of where it falls on this year's USNWR list.

They know it ranks lower than Brown, and the current students we know don't seem to care because they're completely different products. That's why they (and so many other enrolled students) do ED, even before test optional came onto the scene.

I would guess the situation is the same at some of the other very distinctive schools, like Dartmouth and Columbia.

vs., I could personally see the same individual being agnostic between, say, Duke and Northwestern.

What does the last sentence mean ?

If I understand, then this poster doesn't have a clue.

The same applicant who has a evidence-based shot at admission to either Duke or Northwestern will feel equal attraction to both for undergrad, in many cases. Duke and Northwestern undergrad experiences are not so different from each other; neither are campus vibes.

The pre-professional applicant who is med school / law school / biz school or bust cannot credibly say that these are two very different academic experiences. Brown? Chicago? UCLA? Very different from Duke. But Northwestern is not.

NW is more nerdy/grindy while Duke is more Preppy. Brown, UCLA, and Duke are in one group while Chicago and NW are in another

This kind of generalization is useless. You have no data to support these claims; they’re just your “impressions”.

[Anonymous]

Caltech is not in the top 25 despite having higher standardized scores than any other school prior to test optional.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:But I dont really care about Yale vs Princeton.

I would be more interested in kids who pick UT Austin over Rice. Or Rice over Northwestern. Or Northwestern over Notre Dame. Or Notre Dame over Dartmouth.

My kid picked BC over Dartmouth. BC full tuition scholarship, location, school spirit and no greek drove decision.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This tracks with our experience getting to know actual Vanderbilt students (DC is enrolled now) -- the student really, really do want to be there. They are not sad that they're not at USC, or Brown, or Chicago. Vanderbilt was their target all along ... regardless of where it falls on this year's USNWR list.

They know it ranks lower than Brown, and the current students we know don't seem to care because they're completely different products. That's why they (and so many other enrolled students) do ED, even before test optional came onto the scene.

I would guess the situation is the same at some of the other very distinctive schools, like Dartmouth and Columbia.

vs., I could personally see the same individual being agnostic between, say, Duke and Northwestern.

What does the last sentence mean ?

If I understand, then this poster doesn't have a clue.

The same applicant who has a evidence-based shot at admission to either Duke or Northwestern will feel equal attraction to both for undergrad, in many cases. Duke and Northwestern undergrad experiences are not so different from each other; neither are campus vibes.

The pre-professional applicant who is med school / law school / biz school or bust cannot credibly say that these are two very different academic experiences. Brown? Chicago? UCLA? Very different from Duke. But Northwestern is not.

NW is more nerdy/grindy while Duke is more Preppy. Brown, UCLA, and Duke are in one group while Chicago and NW are in another

So wrong. It's not 1981. Have you not spent any minutes at Duke in the past decade?

(hint: the east Asian scholars from New Trier and the tri-state area are grinding away in their pre-med classes at Duke these days. )

[Anonymous]

Surprised how popular Michigan is!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Surprised how popular Michigan is!

It's a great well-rounded school that is relatively easy to get into.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Top 20

RANK UNIVERSITY LOCATION
1 Stanford University Stanford, CA
2 Massachusetts Institute of Technology, MA
3 Harvard University Cambridge, MA
4 Princeton University Princeton, NJ
5 Yale University New Haven, CT
6 Columbia University New York City, NY
7 University of Pennsylvania Philadelphia, PA
8 Brown University Providence, RI
9 Northwestern University Evanston, IL
10 University of Chicago Chicago, IL
11 University of California, Berkeley Berkeley, CA
12 University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, MI
13 University of Notre Dame Notre Dame, IN
14 University of Southern California Los Angeles, CA
15 Vanderbilt University Nashville, TN
16 Dartmouth College Hanover, NH
17 Duke University Durham, NC
18 University of California, Los Angeles CA
19 John Hopkins University Baltimore, MD
20 Cornell University Ithaca, NY

USC surprisingly high, Duke surprisingly low. I guess it correlates with Duke’s relatively lower yield rate