MacArthur is the new Walls

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Anonymous wrote:Most of the OOB is coming from JR feeder. Some from Oyster-Adams.

I don’t think so since the majority of OOB are black

Like there are no IB Black kids at JR. SMH.

Never said that and there might be a few but MacArthur is majority black and a title 1 school so majority of black kids are not IB for JR. Data is data and not anecdotal or just because you know a family here and there.

I’ve already asked this question earlier on this thread but no one answered - can you please advise what official resource I can see this information at about MacArthur, e.g the title 1 status and demographics?

NP. I think the "all black kids are OOB" claim for either school is ridiculous and I know of no data that OSSE/DCPS publishes that you could even infer that from. But with respect to the data we do have:

The just released SY23-24 enrollment audit (here: https://osse.dc.gov/node/1720871)

JR: 556 black students (28%) and 557 at-risk students (28%)

MacArthur: 135 black students (57%) and 98 at-risk students (41%)

I don't know a ton about Title 1 eligibility but that at-risk percentage is in line with other schools with Title 1 status.

The only data we have on IB participation rates is from this document (here: https://dme.dc.gov/page/sy2021-22-public-school-enrollments-dcps-boundary) from SY21-22, which is obviously missing MacArthur and definitely does not break down by race or at-risk status. But:

Deal: 78% of students IB (306 students OOB)

Hardy: 62% of students IB (294 students OOB)

Wilson: 64% of students IB (738 students OOB)

So data confirms that MacArthur is majority black and title 1 with that many at risk kids. It’s almost 1/2 at risk.

Sure there is no IB data yet but it’s pretty obvious that majority OOB are black and at risk since race correlates closely with SES in this town.

There is no way that MacArthur is going to be any kind of top performing school with such a large percentage of at risk kids who likely have siblings that will be pulled into the school. No way unless the school uses a large portion of its resources to support these kids.

NP - 40% is the cut off to receive at risks funds from the city. It’s actually a really great thing because it helps support at our students. Jackson Reid is below the cut off so they don’t get any additional funding which is wide the wild wild west over there. With more than 500 at risk kids at Jackson Reed, Jackson Reed contains the equivalent of an entire risk high school in another part of the city, like Coolidge. or Anacostia. There are public high schools with fewer than 500 students and other parts of the city Jackson Reid contains them all. MacArthur is not going to be like that. MacArthur is going to be smaller and Wen neighborhood family start going as they should eventually, it will be a top school. It will take time. Also, high students are least likely to actually enroll or enroll because it’s so hard to get. This is where the value of a private transportation network that picks up at the local elementary school comes in. There is taco such a thing among some parents I know. Hang in there. Stay the course.

**sorry for typos above. Taco = talk of. High students = high numbers at risk. The highest at risk are least likely to keep enrolling/stay enrolled bc it’s so hard to get to and takes effort many unstable households cannot manage. Private transportation network in the works according to my neighbors who have kids at Mann and are discussing.

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Anonymous wrote:Most of the OOB is coming from JR feeder. Some from Oyster-Adams.

I don’t think so since the majority of OOB are black

Like there are no IB Black kids at JR. SMH.

Never said that and there might be a few but MacArthur is majority black and a title 1 school so majority of black kids are not IB for JR. Data is data and not anecdotal or just because you know a family here and there.

I’ve already asked this question earlier on this thread but no one answered - can you please advise what official resource I can see this information at about MacArthur, e.g the title 1 status and demographics?

NP. I think the "all black kids are OOB" claim for either school is ridiculous and I know of no data that OSSE/DCPS publishes that you could even infer that from. But with respect to the data we do have:

The just released SY23-24 enrollment audit (here: https://osse.dc.gov/node/1720871)

JR: 556 black students (28%) and 557 at-risk students (28%)

MacArthur: 135 black students (57%) and 98 at-risk students (41%)

I don't know a ton about Title 1 eligibility but that at-risk percentage is in line with other schools with Title 1 status.

The only data we have on IB participation rates is from this document (here: https://dme.dc.gov/page/sy2021-22-public-school-enrollments-dcps-boundary) from SY21-22, which is obviously missing MacArthur and definitely does not break down by race or at-risk status. But:

Deal: 78% of students IB (306 students OOB)

Hardy: 62% of students IB (294 students OOB)

Wilson: 64% of students IB (738 students OOB)

So data confirms that MacArthur is majority black and title 1 with that many at risk kids. It’s almost 1/2 at risk.

Sure there is no IB data yet but it’s pretty obvious that majority OOB are black and at risk since race correlates closely with SES in this town.

There is no way that MacArthur is going to be any kind of top performing school with such a large percentage of at risk kids who likely have siblings that will be pulled into the school. No way unless the school uses a large portion of its resources to support these kids.

NP - 40% is the cut off to receive at risks funds from the city. It’s actually a really great thing because it helps support at our students. Jackson Reid is below the cut off so they don’t get any additional funding which is wide the wild wild west over there. With more than 500 at risk kids at Jackson Reed, Jackson Reed contains the equivalent of an entire risk high school in another part of the city, like Coolidge. or Anacostia. There are public high schools with fewer than 500 students and other parts of the city Jackson Reid contains them all. MacArthur is not going to be like that. MacArthur is going to be smaller and Wen neighborhood family start going as they should eventually, it will be a top school. It will take time. Also, high students are least likely to actually enroll or enroll because it’s so hard to get. This is where the value of a private transportation network that picks up at the local elementary school comes in. There is taco such a thing among some parents I know. Hang in there. Stay the course.

NP and I understand your general argument but Coolidge has 1000 kids and 70% are at risk.

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Anonymous wrote:They had to fill the early classes when Hardy kids had a choice of JR and chose JR. Starting next year, all of Hardy feeds to MacArthur. After a few years of Hardy—>MacArthur it will start to become what it will be: a small neighborhood high school serving families who sent their kids to Mann Stoddert Key Eaton or Hyde Addison and on to Hardy. If neighborhood families hold the line - collective action, just like on banning cell phones from schools - we can do this. Send your kid to Hardy. Send them on to MacArthur.

Hardy has 14% at risk kids also going to MacArthur so add that to current numbers and you are close to 55% so over half the school.

Then siblings will follow. It’s going to take a long time to dilute that. It’s not going to be a few years because the school started with such high at risk numbers.

It will still be a title 1 school after this year I bet

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Anonymous wrote:Most of the OOB is coming from JR feeder. Some from Oyster-Adams.

I don’t think so since the majority of OOB are black

Like there are no IB Black kids at JR. SMH.

Never said that and there might be a few but MacArthur is majority black and a title 1 school so majority of black kids are not IB for JR. Data is data and not anecdotal or just because you know a family here and there.

I’ve already asked this question earlier on this thread but no one answered - can you please advise what official resource I can see this information at about MacArthur, e.g the title 1 status and demographics?

NP. I think the "all black kids are OOB" claim for either school is ridiculous and I know of no data that OSSE/DCPS publishes that you could even infer that from. But with respect to the data we do have:

The just released SY23-24 enrollment audit (here: https://osse.dc.gov/node/1720871)

JR: 556 black students (28%) and 557 at-risk students (28%)

MacArthur: 135 black students (57%) and 98 at-risk students (41%)

I don't know a ton about Title 1 eligibility but that at-risk percentage is in line with other schools with Title 1 status.

The only data we have on IB participation rates is from this document (here: https://dme.dc.gov/page/sy2021-22-public-school-enrollments-dcps-boundary) from SY21-22, which is obviously missing MacArthur and definitely does not break down by race or at-risk status. But:

Deal: 78% of students IB (306 students OOB)

Hardy: 62% of students IB (294 students OOB)

Wilson: 64% of students IB (738 students OOB)

So data confirms that MacArthur is majority black and title 1 with that many at risk kids. It’s almost 1/2 at risk.

Sure there is no IB data yet but it’s pretty obvious that majority OOB are black and at risk since race correlates closely with SES in this town.

There is no way that MacArthur is going to be any kind of top performing school with such a large percentage of at risk kids who likely have siblings that will be pulled into the school. No way unless the school uses a large portion of its resources to support these kids.

NP - 40% is the cut off to receive at risks funds from the city. It’s actually a really great thing because it helps support at our students. Jackson Reid is below the cut off so they don’t get any additional funding which is wide the wild wild west over there. With more than 500 at risk kids at Jackson Reed, Jackson Reed contains the equivalent of an entire risk high school in another part of the city, like Coolidge. or Anacostia. There are public high schools with fewer than 500 students and other parts of the city Jackson Reid contains them all. MacArthur is not going to be like that. MacArthur is going to be smaller and Wen neighborhood family start going as they should eventually, it will be a top school. It will take time. Also, high students are least likely to actually enroll or enroll because it’s so hard to get. This is where the value of a private transportation network that picks up at the local elementary school comes in. There is taco such a thing among some parents I know. Hang in there. Stay the course.

Sorry but you are really naive because the at risk funds is not a lot and is just a small fraction of what you need to help support these kids. It’s peanuts

Talk to all the title 1 schools EOTP……

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There is a 0% chance that Macarthur is the new Walls.

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Anonymous wrote:They had to fill the early classes when Hardy kids had a choice of JR and chose JR. Starting next year, all of Hardy feeds to MacArthur. After a few years of Hardy—>MacArthur it will start to become what it will be: a small neighborhood high school serving families who sent their kids to Mann Stoddert Key Eaton or Hyde Addison and on to Hardy. If neighborhood families hold the line - collective action, just like on banning cell phones from schools - we can do this. Send your kid to Hardy. Send them on to MacArthur.

Hardy has 14% at risk kids also going to MacArthur so add that to current numbers and you are close to 55% so over half the school.

Then siblings will follow. It’s going to take a long time to dilute that. It’s not going to be a few years because the school started with such high at risk numbers.

It will still be a title 1 school after this year I bet

You are adding 14% at Hardy to 41% at Macarthur to get to 55%? Not following this logic.

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Anonymous wrote:They had to fill the early classes when Hardy kids had a choice of JR and chose JR. Starting next year, all of Hardy feeds to MacArthur. After a few years of Hardy—>MacArthur it will start to become what it will be: a small neighborhood high school serving families who sent their kids to Mann Stoddert Key Eaton or Hyde Addison and on to Hardy. If neighborhood families hold the line - collective action, just like on banning cell phones from schools - we can do this. Send your kid to Hardy. Send them on to MacArthur.

Hardy has 14% at risk kids also going to MacArthur so add that to current numbers and you are close to 55% so over half the school.

Then siblings will follow. It’s going to take a long time to dilute that. It’s not going to be a few years because the school started with such high at risk numbers.

It will still be a title 1 school after this year I bet

Trying to suppress a snarky comment but you do know that adding two groups with different % doesn’t work like that? Are you saying current MA is 41% at risk and then adding rising 9th grade at 14% to school next year = the whole school 55%???

It’s possible they will still keep 40%+ and Title I due to attrition of non-at-risk Hardy students going private or selective, but no way does the at risk go up so much to become more than half!

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Anonymous wrote:Most of the OOB is coming from JR feeder. Some from Oyster-Adams.

I don’t think so since the majority of OOB are black

Like there are no IB Black kids at JR. SMH.

Never said that and there might be a few but MacArthur is majority black and a title 1 school so majority of black kids are not IB for JR. Data is data and not anecdotal or just because you know a family here and there.

I’ve already asked this question earlier on this thread but no one answered - can you please advise what official resource I can see this information at about MacArthur, e.g the title 1 status and demographics?

NP. I think the "all black kids are OOB" claim for either school is ridiculous and I know of no data that OSSE/DCPS publishes that you could even infer that from. But with respect to the data we do have:

The just released SY23-24 enrollment audit (here: https://osse.dc.gov/node/1720871)

JR: 556 black students (28%) and 557 at-risk students (28%)

MacArthur: 135 black students (57%) and 98 at-risk students (41%)

I don't know a ton about Title 1 eligibility but that at-risk percentage is in line with other schools with Title 1 status.

The only data we have on IB participation rates is from this document (here: https://dme.dc.gov/page/sy2021-22-public-school-enrollments-dcps-boundary) from SY21-22, which is obviously missing MacArthur and definitely does not break down by race or at-risk status. But:

Deal: 78% of students IB (306 students OOB)

Hardy: 62% of students IB (294 students OOB)

Wilson: 64% of students IB (738 students OOB)

So data confirms that MacArthur is majority black and title 1 with that many at risk kids. It’s almost 1/2 at risk.

Sure there is no IB data yet but it’s pretty obvious that majority OOB are black and at risk since race correlates closely with SES in this town.

There is no way that MacArthur is going to be any kind of top performing school with such a large percentage of at risk kids who likely have siblings that will be pulled into the school. No way unless the school uses a large portion of its resources to support these kids.

I'm sorry, are you the same poster who said "data is data"? This is not data.

Race isn't such a surefire proxy for SES. For example, Shepherd Elementary, a Deal feeder, is 47% black, 7% at risk, and 64% IB.

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Anonymous wrote:Most of the OOB is coming from JR feeder. Some from Oyster-Adams.

I don’t think so since the majority of OOB are black

Like there are no IB Black kids at JR. SMH.

Never said that and there might be a few but MacArthur is majority black and a title 1 school so majority of black kids are not IB for JR. Data is data and not anecdotal or just because you know a family here and there.

I’ve already asked this question earlier on this thread but no one answered - can you please advise what official resource I can see this information at about MacArthur, e.g the title 1 status and demographics?

NP. I think the "all black kids are OOB" claim for either school is ridiculous and I know of no data that OSSE/DCPS publishes that you could even infer that from. But with respect to the data we do have:

The just released SY23-24 enrollment audit (here: https://osse.dc.gov/node/1720871)

JR: 556 black students (28%) and 557 at-risk students (28%)

MacArthur: 135 black students (57%) and 98 at-risk students (41%)

I don't know a ton about Title 1 eligibility but that at-risk percentage is in line with other schools with Title 1 status.

The only data we have on IB participation rates is from this document (here: https://dme.dc.gov/page/sy2021-22-public-school-enrollments-dcps-boundary) from SY21-22, which is obviously missing MacArthur and definitely does not break down by race or at-risk status. But:

Deal: 78% of students IB (306 students OOB)

Hardy: 62% of students IB (294 students OOB)

Wilson: 64% of students IB (738 students OOB)

So data confirms that MacArthur is majority black and title 1 with that many at risk kids. It’s almost 1/2 at risk.

Sure there is no IB data yet but it’s pretty obvious that majority OOB are black and at risk since race correlates closely with SES in this town.

There is no way that MacArthur is going to be any kind of top performing school with such a large percentage of at risk kids who likely have siblings that will be pulled into the school. No way unless the school uses a large portion of its resources to support these kids.

I'm sorry, are you the same poster who said "data is data"? This is not data.

Race isn't such a surefire proxy for SES. For example, Shepherd Elementary, a Deal feeder, is 47% black, 7% at risk, and 64% IB.

Shepherd is the outlier in that the UMC black families congregate there but in the rest of the city, race does correlate with SES.

The only other small area of town that might be an outlier is Hillcrest.

But above are 2 small sections of the city. Everywhere else everyone knows race correlates with SES.

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Anonymous wrote:Most of the OOB is coming from JR feeder. Some from Oyster-Adams.

I don’t think so since the majority of OOB are black

Like there are no IB Black kids at JR. SMH.

Never said that and there might be a few but MacArthur is majority black and a title 1 school so majority of black kids are not IB for JR. Data is data and not anecdotal or just because you know a family here and there.

I’ve already asked this question earlier on this thread but no one answered - can you please advise what official resource I can see this information at about MacArthur, e.g the title 1 status and demographics?

NP. I think the "all black kids are OOB" claim for either school is ridiculous and I know of no data that OSSE/DCPS publishes that you could even infer that from. But with respect to the data we do have:

The just released SY23-24 enrollment audit (here: https://osse.dc.gov/node/1720871)

JR: 556 black students (28%) and 557 at-risk students (28%)

MacArthur: 135 black students (57%) and 98 at-risk students (41%)

I don't know a ton about Title 1 eligibility but that at-risk percentage is in line with other schools with Title 1 status.

The only data we have on IB participation rates is from this document (here: https://dme.dc.gov/page/sy2021-22-public-school-enrollments-dcps-boundary) from SY21-22, which is obviously missing MacArthur and definitely does not break down by race or at-risk status. But:

Deal: 78% of students IB (306 students OOB)

Hardy: 62% of students IB (294 students OOB)

Wilson: 64% of students IB (738 students OOB)

So data confirms that MacArthur is majority black and title 1 with that many at risk kids. It’s almost 1/2 at risk.

Sure there is no IB data yet but it’s pretty obvious that majority OOB are black and at risk since race correlates closely with SES in this town.

There is no way that MacArthur is going to be any kind of top performing school with such a large percentage of at risk kids who likely have siblings that will be pulled into the school. No way unless the school uses a large portion of its resources to support these kids.

I'm sorry, are you the same poster who said "data is data"? This is not data.

Race isn't such a surefire proxy for SES. For example, Shepherd Elementary, a Deal feeder, is 47% black, 7% at risk, and 64% IB.

Shepherd is the outlier in that the UMC black families congregate there but in the rest of the city, race does correlate with SES.

The only other small area of town that might be an outlier is Hillcrest.

But above are 2 small sections of the city. Everywhere else everyone knows race correlates with SES.

Will also add that the majority of middle and UMC black families scattered throughout the rest of the city are not sending their kids to DCPS

If you don’t understand why then you don’t know enough of these families.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They had to fill the early classes when Hardy kids had a choice of JR and chose JR. Starting next year, all of Hardy feeds to MacArthur. After a few years of Hardy—>MacArthur it will start to become what it will be: a small neighborhood high school serving families who sent their kids to Mann Stoddert Key Eaton or Hyde Addison and on to Hardy. If neighborhood families hold the line - collective action, just like on banning cell phones from schools - we can do this. Send your kid to Hardy. Send them on to MacArthur.

Hardy has 14% at risk kids also going to MacArthur so add that to current numbers and you are close to 55% so over half the school.

Then siblings will follow. It’s going to take a long time to dilute that. It’s not going to be a few years because the school started with such high at risk numbers.

It will still be a title 1 school after this year I bet

“dilute”

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They had to fill the early classes when Hardy kids had a choice of JR and chose JR. Starting next year, all of Hardy feeds to MacArthur. After a few years of Hardy—>MacArthur it will start to become what it will be: a small neighborhood high school serving families who sent their kids to Mann Stoddert Key Eaton or Hyde Addison and on to Hardy. If neighborhood families hold the line - collective action, just like on banning cell phones from schools - we can do this. Send your kid to Hardy. Send them on to MacArthur.

Hardy has 14% at risk kids also going to MacArthur so add that to current numbers and you are close to 55% so over half the school.

Then siblings will follow. It’s going to take a long time to dilute that. It’s not going to be a few years because the school started with such high at risk numbers.

It will still be a title 1 school after this year I bet

Trying to suppress a snarky comment but you do know that adding two groups with different % doesn’t work like that? Are you saying current MA is 41% at risk and then adding rising 9th grade at 14% to school next year = the whole school 55%???

It’s possible they will still keep 40%+ and Title I due to attrition of non-at-risk Hardy students going private or selective, but no way does the at risk go up so much to become more than half!

yes, such are the math skills of all the “high performing” W3 parents 😂

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Anonymous wrote:Most of the OOB is coming from JR feeder. Some from Oyster-Adams.

I don’t think so since the majority of OOB are black

Like there are no IB Black kids at JR. SMH.

Never said that and there might be a few but MacArthur is majority black and a title 1 school so majority of black kids are not IB for JR. Data is data and not anecdotal or just because you know a family here and there.

I’ve already asked this question earlier on this thread but no one answered - can you please advise what official resource I can see this information at about MacArthur, e.g the title 1 status and demographics?

NP. I think the "all black kids are OOB" claim for either school is ridiculous and I know of no data that OSSE/DCPS publishes that you could even infer that from. But with respect to the data we do have:

The just released SY23-24 enrollment audit (here: https://osse.dc.gov/node/1720871)

JR: 556 black students (28%) and 557 at-risk students (28%)

MacArthur: 135 black students (57%) and 98 at-risk students (41%)

I don't know a ton about Title 1 eligibility but that at-risk percentage is in line with other schools with Title 1 status.

The only data we have on IB participation rates is from this document (here: https://dme.dc.gov/page/sy2021-22-public-school-enrollments-dcps-boundary) from SY21-22, which is obviously missing MacArthur and definitely does not break down by race or at-risk status. But:

Deal: 78% of students IB (306 students OOB)

Hardy: 62% of students IB (294 students OOB)

Wilson: 64% of students IB (738 students OOB)

So data confirms that MacArthur is majority black and title 1 with that many at risk kids. It’s almost 1/2 at risk.

Sure there is no IB data yet but it’s pretty obvious that majority OOB are black and at risk since race correlates closely with SES in this town.

There is no way that MacArthur is going to be any kind of top performing school with such a large percentage of at risk kids who likely have siblings that will be pulled into the school. No way unless the school uses a large portion of its resources to support these kids.

I'm sorry, are you the same poster who said "data is data"? This is not data.

Race isn't such a surefire proxy for SES. For example, Shepherd Elementary, a Deal feeder, is 47% black, 7% at risk, and 64% IB.

Shepherd is the outlier in that the UMC black families congregate there but in the rest of the city, race does correlate with SES.

The only other small area of town that might be an outlier is Hillcrest.

But above are 2 small sections of the city. Everywhere else everyone knows race correlates with SES.

Will also add that the majority of middle and UMC black families scattered throughout the rest of the city are not sending their kids to DCPS

If you don’t understand why then you don’t know enough of these families.

You're arguing that all the OOB MacArthur students are low SES black kids by ... claiming that UMC and MC black families seek out better schools than their IB?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Most of the OOB is coming from JR feeder. Some from Oyster-Adams.

I don’t think so since the majority of OOB are black

Like there are no IB Black kids at JR. SMH.

Never said that and there might be a few but MacArthur is majority black and a title 1 school so majority of black kids are not IB for JR. Data is data and not anecdotal or just because you know a family here and there.

I’ve already asked this question earlier on this thread but no one answered - can you please advise what official resource I can see this information at about MacArthur, e.g the title 1 status and demographics?

NP. I think the "all black kids are OOB" claim for either school is ridiculous and I know of no data that OSSE/DCPS publishes that you could even infer that from. But with respect to the data we do have:

The just released SY23-24 enrollment audit (here: https://osse.dc.gov/node/1720871)

JR: 556 black students (28%) and 557 at-risk students (28%)

MacArthur: 135 black students (57%) and 98 at-risk students (41%)

I don't know a ton about Title 1 eligibility but that at-risk percentage is in line with other schools with Title 1 status.

The only data we have on IB participation rates is from this document (here: https://dme.dc.gov/page/sy2021-22-public-school-enrollments-dcps-boundary) from SY21-22, which is obviously missing MacArthur and definitely does not break down by race or at-risk status. But:

Deal: 78% of students IB (306 students OOB)

Hardy: 62% of students IB (294 students OOB)

Wilson: 64% of students IB (738 students OOB)

So data confirms that MacArthur is majority black and title 1 with that many at risk kids. It’s almost 1/2 at risk.

Sure there is no IB data yet but it’s pretty obvious that majority OOB are black and at risk since race correlates closely with SES in this town.

There is no way that MacArthur is going to be any kind of top performing school with such a large percentage of at risk kids who likely have siblings that will be pulled into the school. No way unless the school uses a large portion of its resources to support these kids.

I'm sorry, are you the same poster who said "data is data"? This is not data.

Race isn't such a surefire proxy for SES. For example, Shepherd Elementary, a Deal feeder, is 47% black, 7% at risk, and 64% IB.

Shepherd is the outlier in that the UMC black families congregate there but in the rest of the city, race does correlate with SES.

The only other small area of town that might be an outlier is Hillcrest.

But above are 2 small sections of the city. Everywhere else everyone knows race correlates with SES.

Will also add that the majority of middle and UMC black families scattered throughout the rest of the city are not sending their kids to DCPS

If you don’t understand why then you don’t know enough of these families.

You're arguing that all the OOB MacArthur students are low SES black kids by ... claiming that UMC and MC black families seek out better schools than their IB?

The MC and UMC families EOTP are sending their kids to charters or privates. They are not sending their kids to DCPS public schools

[Anonymous]

EOTP Black mom here with kid in DCPS. Our HHI is in the top 5% of this city so…